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Good Guys - Kenwood KMC510 Mixer inc extras PLUS breadmaker - less than $529

Posted By: ninkasi, posted 2010/11/29 09:54
My wife's Kenwood finally died a few weeks ago. Was a wedding present to her mum - ie it was probably well over 40 years old. Much loved, but it had had a hard life. Went for a search and found that the Good Guys were selling the KMC510 for $529. This is not a huge discount (RRP is $599), but ok. They actually will do deals if you ask, and in fact I got it for $489. So all up, not a bad discount..... but it doesn't stop there!

Let's start with saying this is a pretty decent machine with a 1000W motor, and in the box was a splash guard, stainless steel bowl, four mixing tools (K Beater, Whisk, Dough Hook, and Flexibeater), plus the Mincer Attachment. It perhaps doesn't feel quite as industrial as the one that died, but it's metal (white enamel) and doesn't feel too flimsy (so maybe it will only last 30 years...). I would note that the 'extras' included with the machine are not cheap at all - check out the online shop at kenwood for yourself, but the mincer for example is around the $160 mark as I recall.....

Details on the machine are here: http://www.kenwood-australia.com/products/product_details.asp?Model=KMC510

Anyhow, there is also a promotion at the moment where you can send off a copy of the receipt and you will get a Kenwood breadmaker with a RRP of $199. Just need to pay postage ($10). This promotion ends 31 Jan 2011.
Expiry date:2011/01/31
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  • Donkey2010/11/29 10:09:23
    Is this comparable to the kitchen aid version of the same machine ?
  • ninkasi2010/11/29 11:06:58
    Definitely comparable, although I think the Kenwood has a more powerful (1000W) motor and I think this is one of the issues the people we know who have the KitchenAids have with their machines ie it's fine when doing most things, but can struggle with bigger loads. Both are good machines with lots of various attachments and I know people who have both - I'd say that the KitchenAid looks better in a funky retro way, and (although I love to cook) I tend not to use a mixer a lot so left to my own devices I'd probably have gone for a funky red one. But, my wife makes lots of cakes etc so is a bit of a mixer snob and she really *really* believes that the Kenwood is better (keep in mind this is the upper range of the Kenwoods - there are cheaper ones that are plastic that would not be anywhere near as good). We have a couple of friends who don't like their KitchenAids, but we don't know anyone who doesn't love their Kenwood.... having said that, I'm sure that there are people out there who love their KitchenAid so again I suspect it probably depends what you use the mixer for as to which is best for you!

    After making fun of the mincer attachment, my wife told me that one of her friends got the Kenwood purely for the mincer attachment and basically only uses that (she makes her own sausages).

    Actually, my wife had planned to get one of the professional Eon range of Kenwoods (eg the KM006) as it has a 1200W motor and a bigger 6.7l bowl - and my wife sometimes has to do "double lots" when in a baking frenzy.... but this was a hard deal to miss.
  • ninkasi2010/11/29 11:30:30
    Just added up the inclusions (all RRP from the Kenwood online shop):
    Stainless steel bowl: $149
    Set of tools (hook, whisk, k beater etc): $219
    Mincer: $169
    Splash guard: $54.95
    Total: $592

    Plus in the box was a cookbook, a dvd (video about the mixer) and a CD (recipes) and a fairly cheap plastic spatula. So for $499 ($489 plus $10 postage) we got nearly $600 worth of accessories plus a free mixer & bread maker.... as a bonus, the +40year old bowl from the old Kenwood fits the new machine!:)
  • MamaK2010/11/29 11:48:32
    Thanks for the info, I'm looking at getting a new breadmaker but need a new mixer too. How did you go about getting the price down?
  • ninkasi2010/11/29 12:15:59
    MamaK
    On second thoughts the breadmaker gets pretty poor reviews


    Hey, just said it was free bread maker - never said it was a good bread maker... ;)

    Would never consider buying something specifically for a freebie - I just see it as something nice being thrown in for extra. We used to have a (Sanyo I think, but can't remember for sure) bread maker, but it was incredibly noisy (would wake us up with a huge THUMP then associated WHACK WHACK WHACKs if it was set to make bread in the morning) and the non-stick coating wore off quickly (whole grain just was not such a good idea) and finally the hole in the middle of the (tiny) loaf due to the hook was never a great feature. This time I think we might simply use the machine to make the dough, and cook the bread in the normal oven. Might not be quite as convenient, but I suspect that would be the only way to get a decent loaf out of any bread maker....

    As far as automatic food makers/cookers go, we would find it hard to live without the rice cooker, but a bread maker.... nah..... given our prior experience we wouldn't really buy one now.... but free? Sure. Why not. :D
  • ninkasi2010/11/29 13:20:38
    Just read some of the reviews, and there is definitely a mix with some people liking it, but a lot of people with issues. On Amazon it was six 5 stars, three 4 stars, and five 1 star reviews. One complaint was a lack of manuals, but a quick look found manual & recipe info at the Australian Kenwood site....

    Some comments (hole in the bottom, uneven baking) are - in my experience - fairly common with bread makers which is why we'll probably mainly use this as a dough maker, rather than bread maker, and save on effort on kneading etc to make pizza dough etc. Frankly I don't have huge expectations, but again, it's free....
  • kazyazy2010/11/29 16:06:03
    I always find it better to use bread makers just to mix and prove the dough then bake in the oven. I hate the hole they leave in the bottom.
  • ntowill2010/12/01 13:45:58
    I was just looking at mixers and decided on the Breville Wizz Planetary Mixer BEM800. I really wanted a KitchenAid one but they are just too much money (cheapest I could find was $612 delivered with a genuine KitchenAid Australian warranty).

    Looked at the Kenwood as it is much cheaper (and comes with a free Breadmaker) but I heard some ordinary reviews on it which was mentioned above.

    The Breville one has all good reviews (just google it and you'll find them - example here) (the scaper beater is a big plus!) They also have some freebies at the moment. They retail for $549 but many places regularly sell them for $499. Myer had a deal on Saturday where they had $15 off every $75 spend on small appliances which brought their price ($549) down to $444.

    Breville also have a free cook book by Luke Mangan worth $60 that comes with it.

    I went to the Good Guys and they price matched Myer, plus they also had a deal (which finished on Monday - sorry) that you also got a free Breville digital kitchen scales worth $109.

    So I got my mixer for $105 off, a free cookbook worth $60 and free digital scales worth $109. About $720 value for $444 (almost 40% off)

    I was happy anyway:D

    Oh - Betta Electrical have them for $549.95 at the moment with the cookbook plus a $100 Catlex fuel card by redemption.
  • Donkey2010/12/01 18:26:25
    Nice stacking up of things ntowill.
  • ninkasi2010/12/01 21:45:25
    A blog is here from someone else who bought a mixer (in their case the same Kenwood) recently
  • port2010/12/02 09:25:27
    FWIW, my mother elected to have her Kenwood mixer repaired after approximately 25 years of use. The repair cost was significant, but nothing like buying a new one.

    My 2¢…
  • ninkasi2010/12/02 13:14:31
    Thought about that, but my wife's mixer had had a *lot* of use. It still worked if you held it upside down, but the batter would come out of the bowl... :D

    I actually pulled it apart myself and worked out it (at a minimum) required replacing the gears plus a basic clean/service. Might have ended up costing half the price of the new one, allowing for labour.... so a new one won out, in particular taking into account a new bowl and whisk were going to be on the shopping list sometime. In fact like I said we were looking at the larger professional mixer due to my wife making some 'double batches' at times, but the deal with the extras won.

    It's only been a few days since we've had it, and my wife's probably made a dozen cakes with it now. Very happy.....
  • luciodr2010/12/16 23:49:44
    [QUOTE=ninkasi]Hey, just said it was free bread maker - never said it was a good bread maker... ;)

    Gotta love this :-)
  • sparrow2010/12/20 08:27:14
    My ancient Kenwood died last week while making Mum's 60th cake. After reading this thread I want to cry as I see how expensive they are. I will have to look into all the brands, including Sunbeam too I think and see which is cheaper.
  • port2010/12/20 19:07:45
    I forgot to mention this before, but this is also listed in the Bing Lee Christmas catalogue for $499.
  • ninkasi2010/12/24 00:08:59
    Well, the breadmaker arrived today. Fired it up, and it actually was relatively quiet (compared to our old one) and didn't leave a huge hole in the loaf. The bread was nice (the kids loved it), although the crust was relatively ordinary. Did just use a 'packet mix' without oil so probably could do better there.

    Overall I think it's actually a decent breadmaker - again, the plan is probably to use it more to just make dough rather than loaves... although if the first one is anything to go by, maybe I might change my mind there and perhaps use it to make a loaf for breakfast on the weekends every now and then....
  • Donkey2010/12/24 00:45:18
    how long do they take to produce a loaf from scratch ninkasi ?
  • ninkasi2010/12/24 14:58:37
    Donkey
    how long do they take to produce a loaf from scratch ninkasi ?


    Go to whoa, about 3.5 hours. Depends on setting though. Most (like this one) has a "quick loaf" setting that will make a loaf faster - less than 2 hours - but the resulting bread is not going to be as good. Keep in mind too, that once you take it out of the maker, you should let it stand on a rack for half an hour to cool a little (as well as let some of the steam out). Makes it easier to cut as well as a bit lighter. Don't have to let it rest though, if you're impatient.... ;)

    It is faster (and better) if you use it to just make the dough, and then put it in a hot oven.
  • Atoxim2010/12/24 18:06:00
    Thanks for all this info. I threw out Mum's Sunbeam Mixmaster this Christmas as the motor had a weird smell to it. It was a wedding pressie to her (married 1966) although don't hold me to that, she has Nana-brain at the moment.

    I've heard good things about this scraping beater so I'll be hunting one of those down I think. If anyone sees any really good prices, let me know!!!
  • ninkasi2010/12/27 23:58:26
    Atoxim
    If anyone sees any really good prices, let me know!!!


    Currently $479 in the David Jones cataogue....
  • TonyK2010/12/28 08:15:15
    I splurged for the breville planetary mixer and although it is a very nice mixer, it doesn't have the extra accessories that the kenwood kmc510 has.

    The reason I bought it was that the girl at Good Guys told me the kenwood was not a planetary mixer and that the warranty was 2year for the parts and 5 years for the motor.

    As I never owned a mixer I just believed what she said, but now I have my doubts.
    Can anyone confirm that the KMC510 have or doesn't have a planetary mixing?
    (I might consider exchanging if the kenwood has planetary mixing)
  • ninkasi2010/12/28 10:07:43
    TonyK
    I splurged for the breville planetary mixer and although it is a very nice mixer, it doesn't have the extra accessories that the kenwood kmc510 has.

    The reason I bought it was that the girl at Good Guys told me the kenwood was not a planetary mixer and that the warranty was 2year for the parts and 5 years for the motor.

    As I never owned a mixer I just believed what she said, but now I have my doubts.
    Can anyone confirm that the KMC510 have or doesn't have a planetary mixing?
    (I might consider exchanging if the kenwood has planetary mixing)


    Info is here and yes the Kenwood is planetary... in fact has been since introduction of the first model sixty years ago in 1950... when Breville were still making radios.. :D
  • TonyK2010/12/28 16:31:07
    haha thanks, i made some cinnamon scroll today and the breville was smoking so i went there and exchanged it for a spanking new KMC510!

    in total I paid $435 for the kmc510 which includes the food grinder and the flexi beater for those who are looking for bargains ;)
  • Atoxim2010/12/28 23:15:55
    I splashed out at the Good Guys too!

    Went in to get the Breville scrapey mixer, but after a little bargaining I walked out with the new Kenwood (comes with scrapey beater and mincer attachment, and the dough mixer and other bits), the $109 Breville digital scales and the Breville cookbook for $450!

    I used it yesterday to make my cornflake cookies and they are 450 times better now!!!

    Very happy with this purchase!!!
  • snappy2010/12/30 13:50:11
    That's such a good bargain. I'd be very grateful if one of you can provide me with a receipt. I tried bargaining the price for this and didn't get much discount. :(
  • ninkasi2010/12/30 20:46:23
    Just updated the initial deal - the breadmaker promotion ends 31 Jan 2011 (thought it was 31 Dec).

    Have put three loaves through the thing now - last night set it up to have one ready this morning. Worked quite well, although it must have been a little cold in the kitchen when it started as the loaf didn't rise quite as much (had more of a flat top, rather than rounded). Probably could add a little more yeast to compensate.....

    Overall I am quite impressed with it - I'm sure there are better, and it isn't perfect, but this is pretty good and is definitely better than our old one....
  • ninkasi2011/01/10 22:00:24
    Further update on the bread maker - if this is a bad one, I can't wait to get a good one! Forgot to mention it also came with a measuring flask and neat little sliding measuring spoon. I'm really impressed with how much better this is than our old machine. Certainly isn't perfect, but very pleased with it. Have put a few loaves through it now, including just using it to make dough & baking that in the oven. Biggest complaints would be the "beeps" it make are quite loud, the buttons need the manual to refer to to work out what they mean (as the icons aren't really obvious as to what they mean), and the mixing arm stays in the loaf more often than not. On the plus side, it's easy to use once you've worked out how to do it.

    Made a "rapid" loaf today as an experiment - actually worked out OK. A little denser than normal, but only to be expected. More like brioche, actually. From pressing the button on the maker, the bread was ready to turn out in 58 minutes. Yep - less than an hour. Amazing. Doubt I'll do it frequently (it uses extra sugar so don't want the kids to get used to it!) but nice to know it actually is an option.

    A hint here for newbies on making bread - always use bread flour plus be aware that there is skill involved as it's dealing with a living thing (yeast) that is sensitive to temperature and quantities. Flour, for example, can absorb moisture from the air so the amount of water required to make a loaf might vary over time. Take the quanitities in recipies as indicative - if a loaf doesn't turn out well, adjust the amount of water down by 20ml or so and try again. Also be consistent in how you measue the flour - if you use a cup to measure (rather than weigh) then the flour can compact into the cup when measuring so you end up with more flour than had you used a spoon to fill up the cup.

    An alternative is to use a premix where the flour for a loaf is already measured and sealed in a plastic bag. A little more expensive, but you're pretty much guaranteed a loaf.

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