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Latest model MacBook 2.4GHz Intel C2D (Aluminium), $2149 @ Apple refurb store, plus 3% cashback

Posted By: fishmonkey, posted 2009/01/12 00:04
yep, the latest model MacBooks have hit the Apple refurbs store...

the RRP for a brand new one of these is $2549...

2GB RAM, 250GB hard drive...

full warranty, free shipping...
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$2,149.00Get deal
  • Wally2009/01/12 10:22:03
    Apart form the unibody the specs are pretty average for the price .. when compared to middle range Dells! and the AppleCare is expensive
  • fishmonkey2009/01/12 10:52:33
    Wally;77742
    Apart form the unibody the specs are pretty average for the price .. when compared to middle range Dells! and the AppleCare is expensive


    ahhh, the opening line in a revolving argument that is doomed to be repeated another zillion times on the interwebs...

    pass!
  • joelwilliam2009/01/12 14:08:16
    Anyone who has ever used/owned a Mac, knows why there is a difference in price. And it's not just the looks cool/fashionable "Apple" factor.

    OS X is the best desktop operating system, runs on a Unix back end, so you have a bash terminal.

    Apple also includes the best software with every new mac, so you don't end up with a Dell full of crap demo's that expire in 30 days.

    Apple also just previewed iphoto 09, it has face recognition and can even detect different peoples faces to organise them into groups. How cool is that.

    No other computer allows you to switch it on, and make a movie - imovie, a song - garage band, website - iweb, music - itunes, organise photos - iphoto. As easily as Mac.

    I was an IBM compatible user for about 14 years, been using Apple for just over 1.5 years and I would never go back.

    Everyone is free to choose their own computers and operating systems, I run Ubuntu server in a VM on my Mac, I just don't like it when people who don't use Mac, say untrue things, like they are the same as a Dell and people just buy them to be "cool"
  • fishmonkey2009/01/12 14:27:16
    ok, haha, i was going to shut up, but now i have to add that there is some weird human compulsion to judge a computer system on "specs" alone... does it have the fastest CPUs, the biggest hard drive, 16TB of video memory for playing 29 3D games concurrently, etc, etc... in other words the most "bang for the buck"...

    however that approach neglects the perspective of a whole being more than a sum of its parts... simply put, there are a whole lot of unquantifiable things that are not easy to value in dollar terms...

    it's true that Apple markets a cool, stylish image, but it is a silly to make the generalization that the price premium is to do with image alone... (or that computers should be valued purely in terms of GHz and GBs)...

    now see what you've done Wally?????
  • joelwilliam2009/01/12 15:08:52
    Yeah I don't want this to turn into a MS vs Apple debate either fishmonkey. And I am not going to try and push apple down anyones throat.

    Simply try a true apple system, a hackintosh with most things barely working doesn't count. If after a good go at it (visit friends who own macs and try to use theirs) you still don't like it, then stick with Windows.

    I think most apple users seem like such fanboys because we once used Windows, and now have found what we think, is a much better way to use computers. And wish someone had convinced us to switch years ago.

    I will admit there is an element of apple users, created by the halo effect from ipods/iphones who buy an apple just to look cool at Uni and the local cafes, and some even run windows on them :confused:. I think buying an Apple just to run Windows is truly a waste a money, as in that case you are only paying more money for something that looks cool.
  • Wally2009/01/12 19:10:54
    now see what you've done Wally?????


    Gulp! and I am a Mac Desktop OSX user at home! :o
  • fishmonkey2009/01/12 19:25:50
    Wally;77794
    Gulp! and I am a Mac Desktop OSX user at home! :o


    aaaahh, the irony!
  • admin2009/01/12 19:41:30
    I'm sort of with Wally in that first statement. Apples are comparatively expensive for what you get and to some extent every time I buy more apple gear I feel that its about 25% more expensive than it should be. Having said that - the 25% premium is what I pay to have something that just works really well..... and I dont have to stuff around with config etc.

    I dont think huge amounts on the apple build quality. 4 macs in the last 2 years and every one of them has had something go pear shaped on it (1x battery, 1x screen, 1x hard drive and 1 x (looks like) battery). This is the one thing that makes me grumble a little about the 25% premium.
  • fishmonkey2009/01/12 19:50:50
    there's definitely a premium that you pay, some of that is image and branding, and some is user experience, design, OS, and quality...

    however the build quality does seem to be more haphazard these days now that Apple is shipping bigger and bigger numbers every year... personally i had a very annoying screen buzz in my current MBP, but luckily i managed to get the whole thing replaced out of warranty for free a few months ago...
  • admin2009/01/12 19:51:43
    how did you manage that ?
  • nod2009/01/12 20:08:23
    Love my Mac and would never go back to using a PC full time. Though I think my judgement has been clouded by a very annoying HP
    I will say that all 3 of my last comupters needed repair under warranty. Acer the hinge (though build quality is rubbish with them anyway I think and required several re installs)
    HP battery died again and again and generally made me want to tear my hair out
    Mac problem with logic board/screen - still trying to get sorted
  • fishmonkey2009/01/12 20:11:51
    admin;77799
    how did you manage that ?


    part luck, part persistence, part desperation since there was no way i could afford to replace the screen myself!

    the problem i had was the one where the screen would sometimes buzz if the brightness wasn't on the maximum setting (or completely off)... i knew it would be hopeless taking it to a repairer, because they might have it for days, and the noise might not even happen... it isn't a widespread problem, but there are a few reports of it on the interwebs... i imagine that there are other people with the buzz who don't find the buzzing loud enough to complain about (but i have rather an acute sense of hearing)...

    i had tried to call the Apple support line in the warranty period too, but i got a gnarly woman who refused to help me at all unless i gave a credit card number over the phone!

    some months later, and out of warranty, the buzz was happening more often... luckily a repairer here in Sydney told me the trick of how to get through to the right people at Customer Service when you don't actually have a job number, and a very helpful guy listened to my story, and even tracked down the phone records to prove i had called a few months earlier (as there was no official log of my call), and then agreed to replace my screen on the spot!

    he even called my mobile a month later for a follow up (ironically when i was in the middle of the Sydney Harbour Bridge, having just dropped my MBP off at the repairers!)... as i predicted, the noise didn't show up for the repair guy, but i insisted that the screen be replaced, which Apple had authorised, and bingo!

    quite amazing, actually...
  • eron2009/01/13 03:19:06
    fishmonkey

    some months later, and out of warranty, the buzz was happening more often... luckily a repairer here in Sydney told me the trick of how to get through to the right people at Customer Service when you don't actually have a job number, and a very helpful guy listened to my story, and even tracked down the phone records to prove i had called a few months earlier (as there was no official log of my call), and then agreed to replace my screen on the spot!
    .


    That's a trick you SHOULD share here!
  • alexplat2009/01/13 14:13:59
    Does anyone that has received cashback from apple want to share what the expreience was like? (tracking, time taken, etc)?
  • joelwilliam2009/01/13 16:53:52
    Yeah I had my macbook hdd fail about 7 months in. Wasn't very fun, but I was glad it happened inside of warranty, as I didn't purchase Apple Care.
  • joelwilliam2009/01/13 17:15:17
    alexplat
    Does anyone that has received cashback from apple want to share what the expreience was like? (tracking, time taken, etc)?


    I have. Both transactions didn't track, I needed to lodge tickets. Took ages for them to accept it, Buckscoop contacted them every week, but they didn't respond. Finally both were paid.

    So it does work, you just need to give it loads of time.
  • fishmonkey2009/01/14 09:49:16
    joelwilliam;77867
    Yeah I had my macbook hdd fail about 7 months in. Wasn't very fun, but I was glad it happened inside of warranty, as I didn't purchase Apple Care.


    any hard drive will eventually fail, but there was a particularly bad batch of Seagates in some MacBooks...

    apparently Seagate is lowering their 5 year warranty down to 3 years now...

    i've heard rumors that the Seagates which are now made in China maybe have a higher failure rate than others...
  • fishmonkey2009/01/14 11:15:37
    eron;77835
    That's a trick you SHOULD share here!


    anyone who really needs help with this can PM me...
  • admin2009/01/14 20:14:40
    fishmonkey;77918
    any hard drive will eventually fail, but there was a particularly bad batch of Seagates in some MacBooks...


    Was this the 160 meg drive they had in them? I replaced one of them in a macbook not too long ago. Credit to apple - very low hassle factor in replacing one of these on the macbook. Took 5 minutes from start to finish.
  • fishmonkey2009/01/14 22:15:41
    admin;77960
    Was this the 160 meg drive they had in them? I replaced one of them in a macbook not too long ago. Credit to apple - very low hassle factor in replacing one of these on the macbook. Took 5 minutes from start to finish.


    the alleged drives are 2.5" Seagate drives with a firmware revision number 7.01... you can find out the firmware revision number for a drive in the system profiler...
  • admin2009/01/14 23:48:12
    Have you seen the price difference between what Apple charge for an upgrade on the base drive with the openmarket price of the exact same drive. Its blinding. When I took the 160 gig out of the machine I did a search on the exact same model + the 250 gig one. The difference between the open market price and what apple charged for the 250gig drive upgrade option was about a 30% premium.
  • fishmonkey2009/01/15 00:05:43
    admin;78012
    Have you seen the price difference between what Apple charge for an upgrade on the base drive with the openmarket price of the exact same drive. Its blinding. When I took the 160 gig out of the machine I did a search on the exact same model + the 250 gig one. The difference between the open market price and what apple charged for the 250gig drive upgrade option was about a 30% premium.


    they also charge "premium" prices for RAM upgrades... i always order minimum RAM spec'ed machines and install RAM sourced from elsewhere...

    there is differing opinions on whether upgrading a hard drive in a machine that requires significant disassembly (e.g. non-Unibody MacBook Pros) yourself voids Apple's warranty, depending on what country you live in... however, i don't think this is an issue any more with the latest models where it is much easier to replace the drives...

    actually i just replaced my (older generation) MBP's 160GB drive with a 320GB Seagate one... using the excellent [url]www.ifixit.com[/url] guides i didn't find it too hairy a job, but for the average person it could easily be a bit of a nightmare...

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